Hotkey triggered workflows don't fire immediately

Otter · March 9, 2017

I have several workflows tied to hotkey triggers. Most of the time they work very well with no fuss.

*Occasionally* a trigger will fail to fire immediately. To get the trigger to fire I need to move the pointer over the Alfred hat in the toolbar. Then the workflow will fire normally. If I hit multiple hotkeys, they queue up so that all will fire normally once Alfred wakes up. It doesn't seem to matter what the workflow does as the actions I have tied to different workflows vary considerably.

This is not reproducible on demand but it happens often enough to be annoying. (BTW: this just happened while I was writing this message.) Once it starts happening it will happen frequently for a while then go away for a while. I believe this started after upgrading to macOS Sierra. I am running the latest versions of both Alfred (3.3.1 [806]) and macOS (10.12.3). This problem has happened over several version updates of both macOS and Alfred.

Any suggestions how I can debug this further?

Andrew · March 9, 2017

@Otter this definitely isn't intended behaviour, and something I haven't heard about before. It sounds to me like something is possibly locking Alfred from continuing.

If you get to the point where it hasn't triggered, could you open Activity Monitor, select Alfred and select "Sample Process" from the cog in the toolbar. This should tell me what could potentially be holding Alfred up (A workflow, some corruption etc).

It's also worth mentioning that the hotkeys are abstracted from Alfred, registered at the macOS level, then fed as events into Alfred. A 3rd party (Accessibility enabled) app could also be interfering with this event chain. I would suggest temporarily creating a new user account, switching to that account and seeing what behaviour you get there.

Cheers,

Andrew

Otter · March 9, 2017

Creating another user account is not practical. However I did change accessibility access so that only Alfred ie enabled. If this seems to solve the problem, I will try to leave it this way. I do not think I use the features of the other apps that require accessibility access. If it does happen again, I will try to sample the Alfred process. Thanks for the advice.

FroZen_X · March 9, 2017

45 minutes ago, Otter said:

Creating another user account is not practical. However I did change accessibility access so that only Alfred ie enabled. If this seems to solve the problem, I will try to leave it this way. I do not think I use the features of the other apps that require accessibility access. If it does happen again, I will try to sample the Alfred process. Thanks for the advice.

Andrew suggested to temporary create one, not permanent. This way you can test if any other application is doing this or if the fault is by Alfred itself

I've had other issues and could narrow it down this way. When you know that it works under the new Account as intended then you can check what on your

main Account is causing the issue.

Otter · March 11, 2017

The problem recurred. I created a sample (attached below) however the moment I clicked on the Sample button, the workflow triggered. This is suspicious that the process of sampling (dtrace) might have kicked the process to start from whatever was blocking it. Anyway here is the sample:

Sampling process 552 for 3 seconds with 1 millisecond of run time between samples
Sampling completed, processing symbols...
Analysis of sampling Alfred 3 (pid 552) every 1 millisecond
Process: Alfred 3 [552]
Path: /Applications/Alfred 3.app/Contents/MacOS/Alfred 3
Load Address: 0x10edb2000
Identifier: com.runningwithcrayons.Alfred-3
Version: 3.3.1 (806)
Code Type: X86-64
Parent Process: ??? [1]

Date/Time: 2017-03-11 08:03:17.450 -0500
Launch Time: 2017-03-06 15:27:51.592 -0500
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.12.3 (16D32)
Report Version: 7
Analysis Tool: /usr/bin/sample
----

Call graph:
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+ 2 __CFRunLoopRun (in CoreFoundation) + 2065 [0x7fffa8ee53e1]
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2789 Thread_5523: com.apple.NSEventThread
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2789 Thread_14286: com.apple.NSURLConnectionLoader
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+ 2789 _pthread_start (in libsystem_pthread.dylib) + 286 [0x7fffbe6539f7]
+ 2789 _pthread_body (in libsystem_pthread.dylib) + 180 [0x7fffbe653aab]
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2789 Thread_14764096
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+ 2789 _pthread_wqthread (in libsystem_pthread.dylib) + 1426 [0x7fffbe653791]
+ 2789 __workq_kernreturn (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) + 10 [0x7fffbe56b4e2]
105 Thread_14764058
+ 105 start_wqthread (in libsystem_pthread.dylib) + 13 [0x7fffbe6531ed]
+ 105 _pthread_wqthread (in libsystem_pthread.dylib) + 1426 [0x7fffbe653791]
+ 105 __workq_kernreturn (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) + 10 [0x7fffbe56b4e2]
105 Thread_14764320
105 start_wqthread (in libsystem_pthread.dylib) + 13 [0x7fffbe6531ed]
105 _pthread_wqthread (in libsystem_pthread.dylib) + 1023 [0x7fffbe6535fe]
105 __workq_kernreturn (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) + 10 [0x7fffbe56b4e2]

Total number in stack (recursive counted multiple, when >=5):

Sort by top of stack, same collapsed (when >= 5):
mach_msg_trap (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) 8365
__workq_kernreturn (in libsystem_kernel.dylib) 2999

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Sample analysis of process 552 written to file /dev/stdout

Otter · March 11, 2017

On 3/9/2017 at 2:48 PM, FroZen_X said:

Andrew suggested to temporary create one, not permanent. This way you can test if any other application is doing this or if the fault is by Alfred itself

I've had other issues and could narrow it down this way. When you know that it works under the new Account as intended then you can check what on your

main Account is causing the issue.

FroZen_X: I understand why Andrew requested that I create a temporary account. Since the problem is not reproducible on demand I need to use the temporary account long enough (days) to see if the problem recurred. I would need to copy everything I use into the temporary account if I need in order to use for that period. When done, I would then have to move back anything that was modified. My usual context has over 25 applications open with many of windows scattered across 10 spaces. My home directory contains over 200GB of data. That is why I say that creating a temporary account is not practical.

Andrew · March 11, 2017

@Otter The stack trace doesn't give me anything useful (I suspect that, as you say, this made things continue therefore the stack trace is normal.

Likewise, if running a stack trace pushed the event system on, then this suggests something very much outside of Alfred's hands. I suspect that there is something up at the macOS level which is affecting the very low level event system. It's likely that this has a wider impact than just Alfred, but you are seeing it manifest within Alfred as you can operate things without clicking or focused keyboard input.

One thing you could try is set the workflows to pass through the modifiers, as this slightly alters the way Alfred and macOS interact when it comes to registered hotkeys. This may be enough to sidestep the issue.

https://www.alfredapp.com/help/workflows/triggers/hotkey/#tips

At this point, I'm not sure what else to suggest to solve this. Perhaps reinstall Alfred (just in case it's not a macOS thing but an Alfred corruption). You can reset Alfred's settings using this guide:

https://www.alfredapp.com/help/troubleshooting/reset-alfred/

I'm certain that a macOS reinstall would fix this issue, and likely a new user account... but as you said, this isn't practical in your situation.

I'm going to move this to the help sub forum (as this isn't a bug in Alfred), but I'll keep an eye on any feedback you give.

Cheers,

Andrew

Otter · March 11, 2017

I agree that this is somewhere in macOS and not an issue with Alfred. I will try your suggestions and if necessary do an overlay reinstall of macOS as this is straightforward and not likely to break any existing configuration. Thanks for your help.

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