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[sumatra]

good day.

 

could you explain me how Alfred searches?..

 

why Alfred does not search "activity monitor" application by "monit"?

but for the "acti" - without problems.

 

and at the same time it searches e.g. "application loader" application and by "appli" and by "load".

 

whats the difference between "activity monitor" and "application loader" in this context?

 

 

see screenshots - https://www.monosnap.com/image/n2EA7ZIhHpzeflVhycU3C6EIY

 

 

I've tried to change Alfred settings parameter "apps matching" but without effects.

 

 

thanx.

 

 

 

[Andrew]

good day.

 

could you explain me how Alfred searches?..

 

why Alfred does not search "activity monitor" application by "monit"?

but for the "acti" - without problems.

 

and at the same time it searches e.g. "application loader" application and by "appli" and by "load".

 

whats the difference between "activity monitor" and "application loader" in this context?

 

 

see screenshots - https://www.monosnap.com/image/n2EA7ZIhHpzeflVhycU3C6EIY

 

 

I've tried to change Alfred settings parameter "apps matching" but without effects.

 

 

thanx.

 

Alfred should (and does) match Activity Monitor with 'act' and 'mon'. The first thing I'd suggest is to reindex OS X using the shortcut in Alfred's Advanced prefs. After this completes (it can take an hour or so), type 'reload' in Alfred.

 

Leave the 'apps matching' on the default setting as that shouldn't affect this

 

Cheers,

Andrew

[sumatra]

thanx, Andrew

 

but... all the same

 

the spotlight search by "moni" works fine, and the terminal "locate monitor" command finds "activity monitor.app"...

 

but Alfred - does not

 

what's the magic?

 

 

screenshot - https://www.monosnap.com/image/TCEsvG4je5uuUsVibWLO2akZE

[Tyler Eich]

This is just an educated guess (based on an earlier post): try a full low level OS X reindex.

[sumatra]

it seems that the reason has been found

 

in the post linked in the previous reply Andrew said:

>Alfred uses the same lower level OS X metadata server, but performs different queries

 

why not assume that there is an error in those "different queries"?

Andrew, please, could you re-check this point?

 

 

 

I know that my English is far-far from ideal...

I've tried to say that spotlight and (that, in my humble opinion, is more interesting) the "locate" terminal command work fine.

and I think that is the guarantee that macos is indexed well.

 

I set up -i and -E options of mdutil a long time ago.

but now I've run these commands in the terminal again.

after the macos reindexing I've reloaded the Alfred app cache and even restarted Afred

 

result - the same.

 

so, only Alfred does not find this "activity monitor" application by "moni".

[Andrew]

 

it seems that the reason has been found

 

in the post linked in the previous reply Andrew said:

>Alfred uses the same lower level OS X metadata server, but performs different queries

 

why not assume that there is an error in those "different queries"?

Andrew, please, could you re-check this point?

 

 

 

I know that my English is far-far from ideal...

I've tried to say that spotlight and (that, in my humble opinion, is more interesting) the "locate" terminal command work fine.

and I think that is the guarantee that macos is indexed well.

 

I set up -i and -E options of mdutil a long time ago.

but now I've run these commands in the terminal again.

after the macos reindexing I've reloaded the Alfred app cache and even restarted Afred

 

result - the same.

 

so, only Alfred does not find this "activity monitor" application by "moni".

 

 

Could you please download this app and drop activity monitor into it to show the metadata:

 

http://cachefly.alfredapp.com/tools/AlfredMetadataTool_v1.0.zip

 

Cheers,

Andrew

[sumatra]

here is the result:

 

--------------------------------------------------

/Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor.app

 

Internal File Metadata

======================

 

 Display Name: Мониторинг системы

    Alt Names: Activity Monitor.app, Мониторингсистемы, ActivityMonitor, Мс, AM

    File Type: com.apple.application-bundle

     Comments: 

     Keywords: 

    Last Used: 

 

Raw mdls File Metadata

======================

 

kMDItemAlternateNames          = (

    "Activity Monitor.app",

    "\U041c\U043e\U043d\U0438\U0442\U043e\U0440\U0438\U043d\U0433\U0441\U0438\U0441\U0442\U0435\U043c\U044b",

    ActivityMonitor,

    "\U041c\U0441",

    AM

)

kMDItemAppStoreCategory        = "Утилиты"

kMDItemAppStoreCategoryType    = "public.app-category.utilities"

kMDItemCFBundleIdentifier      = "com.apple.ActivityMonitor"

kMDItemContentCreationDate     = 2013-09-09 06:52:55 +0000

kMDItemContentModificationDate = 2013-09-09 06:52:55 +0000

kMDItemContentType             = "com.apple.application-bundle"

kMDItemContentTypeTree         = (

    "com.apple.application-bundle",

    "com.apple.application",

    "public.executable",

    "com.apple.localizable-name-bundle",

    "com.apple.bundle",

    "public.directory",

    "public.item",

    "com.apple.package"

)

kMDItemDateAdded               = 2013-10-23 07:27:28 +0000

kMDItemDisplayName             = "Мониторинг системы"

kMDItemExecutableArchitectures = (

    "x86_64"

)

kMDItemFSContentChangeDate     = 2013-09-09 06:52:55 +0000

kMDItemFSCreationDate          = 2013-09-09 06:52:55 +0000

kMDItemFSCreatorCode           = ""

kMDItemFSFinderFlags           = 0

kMDItemFSHasCustomIcon         = (null)

kMDItemFSInvisible             = 0

kMDItemFSIsExtensionHidden     = 1

kMDItemFSIsStationery          = (null)

kMDItemFSLabel                 = 0

kMDItemFSName                  = "Activity Monitor.app"

kMDItemFSNodeCount             = 1

kMDItemFSOwnerGroupID          = 0

kMDItemFSOwnerUserID           = 0

kMDItemFSSize                  = 11578595

kMDItemFSTypeCode              = ""

kMDItemKind                    = "Программа"

kMDItemLanguages               = (

    ar,

    ca,

    cs,

    da,

    Dutch,

    el,

    English,

    fi,

    French,

    German,

    he,

    hr,

    hu,

    id,

    Italian,

    Japanese,

    ko,

    ms,

    no,

    pl,

    pt,

    "pt_PT",

    ro,

    ru,

    sk,

    Spanish,

    sv,

    th,

    tr,

    uk,

    vi,

    "zh_CN",

    "zh_TW"

)

kMDItemLogicalSize             = 11578595

kMDItemPhysicalSize            = 13504512

kMDItemVersion                 = "10.9.0"

--------------------------------------------------

Edited December 23, 2013 by sumatra

[Andrew]

Add a spotlight comment of 'monitor' for now, which should fix it.

 

If you have a Powerpack, please fill in your Powerpack details and I'll be able to provide some workflow based solutions for you.

 

Cheers,

Andrew

[sumatra]

Andrew, "activity monitor" - is the example only.

 

there are many apps that Alfred cannot find by the second word.

"Network Utility"

"System Information"

...

 

it seems that something wrong with cyrillic (in my case).

 

Alfred finds applications without cyrillic in its name fine.

"Google Chrome", "Microsoft Word", "Air Video Server"... without problems.

and the only difference in the result of "Alfred Metadata Tool" between these applications and the applications mentioned above, is the absence of Russian letters.

 

this problem is not in any way critical, of course.

but if you fix it in future versions, it would be perfectly

 

 

and I don't have power pack license yet.

there was no reason for it.

"workflow based solution" - does it solve the whole problem or is about specific app "activity monitor" only?

 

 

thanx

[sumatra]

Alfred team, thank you